My Absentee Master Tenant Was Scamming Me And My Landlord

by | Nov 8, 2012 | Roommates

So in December 2011 I started living in an apt with 3 other girls in SF. Lo and behold I found out that the man who we were paying our rent to was the master tenant not an actual landlord and that he actually lived in San Diego. So since he was there he designated one of the roommates as his spokesperson. She kept in contact with him about any problems with the apartment was in charge of finding new roommates etc. She told me that the way deposits work is that the new roommate writes the deposit out to the old roommate that moves out and whenever I move out the same would be done for me. I have this all in writing in my original rental agreement that I was given.

Now at the end of July 2012 I ended up moving to Chicago for my job. When I asked his “spokesperson” about when I would receive my deposit back she told me that it wasn’t her responsibility and for me to deal with the master tenant. When I did he told her no its your (his spokesperson) job since you deal with the apartment’s business. I have not heard from her since then. In fact she ended up abandoning the apt without notice and supposedly no one has seen her since. It has been almost 3 months and I still do not have my deposit.

I have been in constant contact with the master tenant and he constantly says that he hasn’t heard anything from the landlord and that he doesn’t know what to do. I felt bad for him until I received a forwarded letter in Chicago about a landlords petition where we (I was still included on the list even though i moved out already) were supposed to show up to a court hearing. All of our names were included even though it was dated almost 2 months after I left. Clearly the landlord is not sitting idly by. I brought it up to the master tenant and he says he had no idea and never received a notice (although his address included with his name on the petition was the same address we mailed our checks to.)

Since then I have contacted the SF Rent Board and was told I had the right to bring the master tenant to small claims court. When I brought it up to him in a very civil manner (I even gave him until the end of the month and have the email as proof!) he responded very nasty saying that I could bring him to court but he wouldn’t ever pay me so what good would that do and that I didn’t pay the deposit to him so what could I possibly do to him.

I find it hard to believe that somebody that is not doing all that he can to get us our deposit back is able to just do that with no sort of consequence. What can I do?

I find it hard to believe that you can actually muster up some concern for this sociopath after he blatantly ripped you off.

Before I tell you that your chances of recovering your security deposit are only slightly better than Mitt Zomney’s chances of winning last night’s election, you should call the Rent Board again and find out if decision was made on the landlord’s petition and get a copy of that decision.

I think the landlord probably discovered that the master tenant did not live in the unit and was likely making a profit on the rent by overcharging the roommates. The landlord probably filed a petition under Rent Board Rules & Regulations §1.21 alleging his right to increase the rent to market rate based upon the fact that the master tenant did not reside in the unit.

I’ve written about this issue several times. See, for example, “Tenant Troubles: Why An Absentee Master Tenant Is A Bad Idea” and “Bad Master Tenant.”

Simply put, your ex-master tenant is a liar. He received the notice from the Rent Board and he never talked to the landlord about getting your money.

Essentially a landlord can collect a security deposit at the inception of the tenancy, when the tenant or tenants sign a lease. The deposit is held, as security against damage, nonpayment of rent, etc. Even if roommates come and go, the landlord does not have to return the security deposit until the tenancy ends, until a new lease is signed with, presumably, new tenants. The building owner/landlord has no duty to return your portion of the security deposit.

The master tenant knew this. He would never jeopardize his little enterprise by contacting the landlord for you.

It is also likely that the lease provided that he had to seek the landlord’s permission to sublet. Do think he did that? You’re actually lucky that weren’t named in an unlawful detainer (eviction lawsuit). I recommend that you contact the real landlord and inform him that you moved out in July just in case he decides to evict the rest of the roommates.

Normally I would advise you to sue ’em all and let the court sort it out. But master tenants rarely have assets or jobs that you can lien and/or attach. That’s why they set up these schemes in the first place. To complicate matters, the roommate/manager (thief number 2) absconded with your security deposit and you don’t know where she is to be able to serve her with a summons to appear in Small Claims Court.

You don’t mention the amount of your deposit, nor do you say if you still live in Chicago. Each of those factors should be considered before you file a claim. Will the amount of the security deposit justify flying back to California to present your case when it’s likely you’ll be suing two deadbeats?

If you want to find out more about the small claims process read Everybody’s Guide to Small Claims Court in California from Nolo Press.

Sweet Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Tenants: Never, ever rent a room from an absentee master tenant!

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  1. I agree with Greg and was angered enough by that ignorant comment from Crow:
    “all landlords are parasites.”
    To get out of bed on my one day off to write this…
    Jeez, why not just say that all lawyers are slimebags or all homeless people are drug addicts? 20% of the apartments in SF are vacant and the tenant board likes to blame it on Air B&B and greedy landlords. As a tenant, i am angered at the laws set forth by SF which indirectly raises my rent for a lower quality of living. I feel we shoot ourselves in the foot by erecting so many resiculous laws and then establishing a tenant board to protect them and provide help to just a portion of the citizens whose tax money funds its very existence.

    A few months ago I ran an experiment to see how bias and unfair the tenant board was after reading some pretty shady things on their website about subletting. I first called in pretending to be a landlord requesting information on the laws pertaining to a tenant I suspected of illegaly subletting. The lady I spoke to was polite, but blunt and informed me that my hands were tied, that there was nothing I could do. A few days later I called as a tenant and asked the agent what my rights were if I had been illegally subletting for the past year and was worried about being evicted. I was not only informed of the legal action my landlord had the right to take against me, (which she conveniently forgot to mention the week prior) I was also educated on a sneaky maneuver that would allow me to keep my apartment, as well as my sub-tenant and as an added bonus set myself up so that I may sew my landlord when I moved out.

    The sad thing is, most tenants don’t see a problem here. A corrupt system is a corrupt system and being poor doesnt give anyone the right to cheat. I believe it is possible for socialism and capitalism to live harmoniously under the umbrella of democracy. Whether you agree or not is really irrelevant. What is undeniable is that if you expect a fair outcome or at least expect people to believe that you are fighting for justice, you can’t cheat to get it.
    As a third generation native to SF and probably a tenant for life, please stop. Thank you for trying, but really, you’re just making it worse.

  2. Dave,
    I enjoy your column very much but I respectfully disagree with you. If landlords are parasites, than I would say renters are leeches. They can’t afford their own home so they must feed/live off others. I think to say that all landlords (and I think you are specifically referring to people who are professional landlords) are parasites is pretty extreme. Sure there are some that are, just as there are some renters that are leeches.

    I would argue that landlords do produce something. They provide homes for those who can not afford to purchase their own. If landlords were abolished, that would also abolish the renter class, right? Forcing everyone to have to purchase a home. I guess some would argue that the increased demand would drive down home prices, but would that make it any more affordable for people?

  3. The problem is that the landlord business, itself, is sleazy. Landlords produce nothing. They’re essentially parasites.

  4. Hey, wait, I thought only landlords could be the sleazy ones. Gee, I guess there a**hole tenants as well.

    Does it possibly follow that maybe not all landlords are sleazy? Maybe not even most of them?

    No. No way.

  5. Amazing the depth of sleaze. Wonder how much profit the absentee master tenant was making.

    Don’t know if you care, but there are two “you” missing in the third paragraph from the end.

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