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Can My Landlord Make Me Pay To Replace The Carpet?

Can My Landlord Make Me Pay To Replace The Carpet?

Can My Landlord Make Me Pay To Replace The Carpet?

When we moved in, our landlord warned us that the carpet ‘easily stains’ so we must take our shoes off. We do but after two years of living there, the carpet is definitely worn down.

Now she claims that the carpet should not be so dirty & that our upstairs neighbor has the same carpet that is very clean. We also have had a few accidents which we know we are responsible for- a few burn marks & a nail polish stain. The landlord is claiming that because of how dirty the carpet is in addition to the marks, we will be responsible for replacing the entire apartment because she does not want ‘seams’!

If the carpet is thoroughly cleaned when we move out, and all that remain are the few marks we are responsible for, can she make us replace the entire carpeting?

Ah, carpets…one of the big three, along with hardwood floors and ovens. If all landlords are attracted to a dirty ovens like Sylvia Plath, they become vengeful Aladdins when they suspect that tenants have diminished the magic of the wall-to-wall.

Carpets and drapes – “useful life” rule

Ordinary wear and tear to carpets, drapes and other furnishings cannot be charged against a tenant’s security deposit. (Civil Code Section 1950.5(e).) Ordinary wear and tear includes simple wearing down of carpet and drapes because of normal use or aging, and includes moderate dirt or spotting. In contrast, large rips or indelible stains justify a deduction from the tenant’s security deposit for repairing the carpet or drapes, or replacing them if that is reasonably necessary.

One common method of calculating the deduction for replacement prorates the total cost of replacement so that the tenant pays only for the remaining useful life of the item that the tenant has damaged or destroyed.

The dispositive question one must ask is, “How old is the carpet?” That’s important because carpets don’t last forever.

How do you determine the approximate age of your carpet?

The landlord inadvertently tipped you off that the carpet would be a problem when you moved in. At that point, you should have casually asked the landlord when the carpet had been installed. Generally, tenants should ask this type of question before moving in and take comprehensive photos of a unit before they unload their furniture.

If you are planning to have the carpet professionally cleaned, you have another opportunity to get an estimate of the carpet’s age—ask the carpet cleaner. If you can, get them to sign a letter or declaration stating their opinion about the condition and age of the carpet. If the cleaner is reluctant, either find someone else who will attest to the carpet’s age or ask them to simply note it on the invoice—”Steam clean 50 year old shag carpet, with special raking of Acapulco Gold and Windowpane residue.

How can you calculate the useful life of carpets?

Landlords are allowed to deduct the annual depreciation of items like appliances and carpets from gross income for tax purposes.

IRS Tax Publication 527 provides information regarding expense deductions, including allowable depreciation schedules, for residential rental property. Table 2-1 on page 9 of the publication shows allowable depreciation of property used in rental activities. Using the general depreciation system carpets have a usable life of 5 years. Using the alternative depreciation system, carpets have a usable life of 9 years. (IRS Tax Publication 527, page 9, Table 2-1.) Most landlords use the general depreciation system.

For example, suppose a tenant has truly damaged a carpet beyond ordinary wear and tear (hard to prove), an eight-year-old carpet that had a life expectancy of five years would be worth nothing, zero, zip, nada. The landlord has to eat the replacement cost despite the damage beyond ordinary ware and tear.

Using the same example, with a life expectancy of nine years and if a replacement carpet of similar quality would cost $2,000, the landlord could properly charge only $222.22 for only one years’ worth of life (use) that would have remained if the tenant had not damaged the carpet.

In your case, we know that the carpet was not new when you moved in. Assuming that the carpet is three years old, and the small marks to which you refer do not constitute ordinary wear and tear (highly unlikely), you could be liable for 40% of the replacement cost of a similar carpet.

This isn’t legal advice, but I’ve repaired carpets myself. One can do things like carefully trimming off the burned top of the pile on the carpet. Or, cutting out a little piece of the carpet in a closet and gluing it in a small stained area that one has carefully removed like a hair plug. I’m talking small area here, like at most an half an inch square. Don’t try to replace the blood stains from a Goodfellas-style beat down.

Ask an expert. There are plenty of tricks to repair carpet that won’t involve a security deposit deduction.

Make sure you take photos when you move out. If the landlord attempts to deduct from your security deposit, go to the San Francisco Tenants Union to discuss how you can sue her for maximum damages.

Finally, ask yourself, “What kind of landlord would install carpets in a rental unit that easily stain except a Cheese Ball who charges her tenants to pay for replacement every time they move out?” A Cheese Ball who pockets the cost, doesn’t replace the carpets, and still deducts the depreciation from her taxes, that’s who.

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Grand Theft Security Deposit Again?

Grand Theft Security Deposit Again?

Grand Theft Security Deposit Again?

I recently moved into a rent controlled building in SF.  During the application process, an erroneous community judgement appeared on my credit report, and despite my showing it had been removed from my other two reports by the respective reporting agencies, I was required to pay double the normal deposit amount.

Ten business days later, I have received notification from the 3rd and final reporting agency that the error was permanently deleted without equivocation and requested my management company apply the excess portion of my security deposit toward a month’s rent.

They are refusing, without explanation, despite over-charging me on the deposit based on information proven to be false.  Do I have any recourse before the end of my lease term to be reimbursed for this additional amount?  This is not instilling me with confidence that they will employ fair practices upon my move out regarding returning my deposit overall.

Why would you ever have any confidence that a landlord will return your security deposit?

A report complied by Tenants Together entitled No Deterrent: Improper Security Deposit Withholding in California states:  “[I]in excess of $1 billion of deposit money annually is either returned to or withheld from California tenants.” The report also found that 60% of tenants reported that they had experienced unfair withholding of some or all of their deposit. It’s fair to say that hundreds of millions of dollars a year are flat out stolen by landlords.

Yet, as Dean Preston wrote last year, after our legislative griftocrats failed to pass a law enacting minor reforms to the security deposit statute (California  Civil Code section 1950.5), the California Senate denied tenants basic protections that Alabama tenants have.

If you rent an unfurnished apartment, your security deposit cannot exceed twice the monthly rent or three times the monthly rent for a furnished unit. (Civil Code §1950.5(c).) That’s why landlords typically collect a total of three times the rent upon signing a lease (first month’s rent plus maximum security deposit.)

If the management company has collected more than the legal amount, demand that the excess be returned and threaten to sue if it is not returned immediately.

Civil Code §1950.5(l) states in part:

The bad faith claim or retention by a landlord or the landlord’s successors in interest of the security or any portion thereof in violation of this section […] may subject the landlord or the landlord’s successors in interest to statutory damages of up to twice the amount of the security, in addition to actual damages. The court may award damages for bad faith whenever the facts warrant that award, regardless of whether the injured party has specifically requested relief. In an action under this section, the landlord or the landlord’s successors in interest shall have the burden of proof as to the reasonableness of the amounts claimed or the authority pursuant to this section to demand additional security deposits.

Usually this part of the statute is applicable to lawsuits for unreturned deposits after a tenant has vacated, but I don’t see why it couldn’t be used in your case, if the landlord collected too much money at the outset of your tenancy.

FYI, one of Mark Leno’s proposed revisions to the security deposit law last year simply changed “The court may award damages for bad faith…” to “The court must award damages for bad faith…” In this example, a court has already found bad faith, why shouldn’t it be required to punish that bad faith? Could it be that bad faith is standard operating procedure for landlords?

No Deterrent reported that tenants prevailed in over 70% of the cases that went to judgment, yet in only 3.5% of the security deposit cases filed by tenants was a landlord assessed a penalty by the court. Landlords steal hundreds of million of dollars from tenants every year and get away with it, aided and abetted by our so-called representatives who will not cross their real estate industry/landlord masters, despite a showing of bad faith–grand theft.

Of course, if the landlord collected an amount that falls within the legal limit, you will have to wait till the end of your tenancy to sue them…and yes, given their behavior now, you will have to sue them. Reread “Grand Theft Security Deposit” for a list of actions to take to avoid losing your deposit at the end of your tenancy.

Note on the image: I found this image on the web almost five years ago. It was a nineteenth century image of a kid picking a rich dandy’s pocket. I contacted my friend, the artist Francis McIlveen, to retool the image to show the dandy picking the kid’s pocket to illustrate my first “Grand Theft Security Deposit” post. It’s still apropos. The rich still steal from our children and landlords still steal security deposits from tenants.

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I Think My Landlord Is Crazy, Do I Need To Move Out?

I Think My Landlord Is Crazy, Do I Need To Move Out?

I Think My Landlord Is Crazy, Do I Need To Move Out?

The landlord is crazy.

So here’s the deal. I just moved to Lafayette to a unit sight unseen from across the country. Gotta do what you gotta do, right?

I offered to do all the paperwork necessary weeks before I moved, but the landlord declined, saying I could just move into the unit when I got here. Risky, but I went for it, and moved in June of this year.

The rental is basically half of a house, bordered from the rest of the house with a door in the kitchen. There are two mini-fridges, tiny stove and a bar sink to serve as a kitchen. I’m glad i don’t need a hot plate.

The landlord is a retired military (navy) man and is a Romney supporter, I know this’ not through conversations, but because we share a mailbox. He has a tenuous grasp of reality. He will leave me these nasty notes on the door, telling me to move my moving truck, or sign a rental application (threatening eviction), the latest is that he wanted $25 to do a credit check, and he held a delivery of mine, insinuating that I couldn’t have my package until I got him a credit report.

It’s month to month rental, and a fairly boilerplate lease (more of a form). So I’m just wondering what I should do. It’s obviously not bad enough to warrant moving out, but it is annoying and illegal.

Additionally, I have zero property history here besides this tenancy. Finding another place will be difficult without a good local reference, so I don’t want to burn this particular bridge.

Welcome to California. As a new resident of our lovely state you need to understand that you have very few rights as a tenant despite the fact that we are considered to be one of the more progressive states in the field. If you have to drive though a tunnel to get to San Francisco, the chances are about 100 to 1 that you don’t have local rent control to strengthen your tenant rights.

It’s usually a bad idea to live in the same building as your landlord, much less the same unit. Why? Because most landlords think they own you. They think they can control “Every breath you take; And every move you make; Every bond you break, every step you take; I’ll be watching you.” Like in the song by the Police, some landlords can be conflicted about the control they want to exert. They want the drama, the interaction, and they just really want you to love them. It’s, like, stalker fucked up. Sound familiar?

Your landlord cannot demand a credit check now because you already live in the unit. The purpose of a credit check is to determine if you are eligible to rent. So you can tell the Admiral to go to hell on that one.

Tampering with the mail is a federal offense. You can let Captain Queeg know that you will report him to a postal inspector if he continues to do so.

Finally, it is likely that you are living in an illegal unit. I’ll bet any amount of dough that the landlord did not get building permits to divide the house in half.

So what would be bad enough to warrant moving out? Does the landlord have to demand that you swab the the poop deck at four bells every day to get you to consider getting out.

Here’s what I would do. First I would call the City of Lafayette Code Enforcement Department and ask for an inspection to determine if the construction dividing the house is illegal. Then I’d give thirty days notice to vacate. Finally, I’d get all my evidence together to sue the landlord when he refuses to return the security deposit (if you have one.)

The bridge you don’t want to burn is a bridge to nowhere. You were never going to get a good reference from Captain Ahab anyway. Time to find some metaphorical gasoline.

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Can My Landlord Hang On To My Deposit For Utility Bills?

Can My Landlord Hang On To My Deposit For Utility Bills?

Can My Landlord Hang On To My Deposit For Utility Bills?

My husband and I vacated an apartment in the Marina district in May.  We paid rent for 6 days more than we stayed in the apartment We have not received our deposit back even though California law states the landlord has 21 days.  

When I followed up with the landlord he said he is working on tallying up the bills for the past 15 months to deduct from our deposit and he just received some of the last month of bills.  Our rental agreement states we would pay 2/3’s of certain bills (water, garbage, electricity for the garage, cable) because he lived in the unit above by himself and there were 2 of us.

We were disappointed he did not give these bills to us monthly and is now deducting from our deposit. We had requested these bills multiple times while living in the unit and he always said he would work on putting a spreadsheet together showing what we owe and never did.  Unfortunately, we do not have any of these requests in writing.  

I am guessing he is legally allowed to deduct these from our deposit, but would appreciate confirmation.  Additionally, does the 21 day rule not apply since he was waiting to receive a utility bill?

I don’t think Civil Code § 1950.5, the statute dealing with the collection and refund of security deposits, is applicable to collect utility bills.

California Civil Code § 1950.5(b)(1-4) allows the landlord to deduct from the  tenant’s security deposit for four purposes: (1) For unpaid rent; (2) For cleaning the rental unit when the tenant moves out, but only to make the unit as clean as it was when the tenant first moved in; (3) For repair of damages, other than normal wear and tear, caused by the tenant or the tenant’s guests; and (4) If the lease or rental agreement allows it, for the cost of restoring or replacing furniture, furnishings, or other items of personal property (including keys), other than because of normal wear and tear.

In other words, there is no provision in the code to deduct utility bills from a security deposit.

The short answer to your question is that the 21-day period does apply. You can send a demand letter to the landlord requesting the return of your security deposit in, say, five days, and remind him if he fails to pay, you’ll sue him in small claims court for the deposit plus twice the amount of the deposit as statutory damages.

A more complex analysis will, however, recognize that the landlord will be able to file a cross-complaint for the utility bills if you sue him for the deposit.

I think you should send the landlord a demand letter if only to get him off his ass. If he provides the bills, they are accurate and you do owe the landlord, make an arrangement to settle the whole thing.

Check in with San Francisco Tenants Union to get advice about what to include in your demand letter.

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Is It Too Late For Me To Sue To Get My Security Deposit Back?

Is It Too Late For Me To Sue To Get My Security Deposit Back?

Is It Too Late For Me To Sue To Get My Security Deposit Back?

by  | Jun 13, 2012 | Tenant Troubles Classics

I moved out almost 2 years ago. It will be 2 years on this June 1, 2012. Is it too late? I never received my deposit or, any of it. How do I represent myself to the judge. I’ve seen judges before. They throw out cases because the plaintiff did not have their stuff together. What do I say? Do I quote CA laws? Is it just as simple as walking in and saying here’s my typed, signed apartment lease? I did send letters about the deposit and made copies and calls…

I just don’t understand why some tenants wait so long to sue for security deposits. It seems to me that you’re either going to invest the time and energy to go after a landlord who stole your security deposit or not. Landlords steal security deposits because they can. They bank on the fact that many tenants will simply walk away. Remember the scene in the movie, Fight Club, when “Jack” (played by Edward Norton) describes his occupation to a fellow passenger on a plane?

On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero. I’m a recall coordinator. My job is to apply the formula. A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 miles per hour. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, do we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, (A), and multiply it by the probable rate of failure, (B), then multiply the result by the average out-of-court settlement, (C). A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don’t do one.

Landlords calculate their risk in a similar fashion. Take the total amount of the security deposits you hold (A), and multiply it by the probable rate of tenants asserting their rights, (B), then multiply the average judgment in small claims court, (C). A time B times C equals X. If X is less that the total amount of security deposits you hold, you don’t bother to refund any of them. Of course, that practice could change if the rate of tenants asserting their rights increased. Or if the amount of statutory damages awarded by courts increased. But tenants can’t count on the courts to fight their battles. I’m glad you’re finally going to do something about recovering your deposit. I answered a similar question to yours almost three years ago in Tenant Troubles: Sue For Security Deposit Or SOL? You may still have time to sue the landlord:

Security deposits in California are governed by Civil Code §1950.5. The statute of limitations begins to run when the claim “accrues.” In security deposit cases, the claim accrues on the 22nd day after you move out because the landlord has 21 days to refund. There is a two-year statute of limitation on claims for the breach of an oral contract. If you do not have a lease or written agreement with your roommate or landlord, your claim may already be going down the drain. Speak to a lawyer immediately and/or file it! Generally, one has three years to sue for a liability created by statute which could include security deposit actions since they are governed by specific statute like Civil Code §1950.5. It is unlikely that a court would find that this could apply to an oral lease because any action on the lease would be barred after two years. On the other hand, the statute of limitation for a written lease is four years.

A judge will throw your case out if you don’t have your shit together. One way to avoid this is to prepare a brief outlining the facts of the case and the applicable laws to present to the judge with your evidence when he or she hears the case. Brief means brief–no more than a couple of pages. No, you don’t just bring in a copy of your lease. Think about it. What will that prove? Will it prove that you didn’t spray paint FUCK YOU! all over the walls of the unit before you left? You may hear an allegation like that from the landlord. “The place was a pig sty.” “The tenant owed rent.”… etc. Read my blog post, Grand Theft Security Deposit. Get a copy of Everybody’s Guide to Small Claims Court in California, from Nolo Press. Go to the San Francisco Tenants Union to discuss your case and how to present it.

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This Is Why You Take Photographs At Move In

This Is Why You Take Photographs At Move In

This Is Why You Take Photographs At Move In

My husband and I have been renting a house for 7 years and are getting ready to move.

When we first moved in we had a 1 year lease which of course is now expired, and our here month to month. When we moved in the house had quite a few issues; cracks in the tile on the floor, rooms not painted, the list goes on.

At the time, the landlord refused to do a walk thru with us telling us that she already knew all the problems with the house. I didn’t push it because I didn’t realize that there might be a problem when it came time for us to move out.

The house was built in 1972 and has the original carpet in it, it’s in terrible need of replacement but she won’t replace it. Our dishwasher has been broken for about a year now and her answer to us is that “she will replace it when they are on sale”. I told her that we rented the house with a working dishwasher so replace it or let us deduct rent, no answer on that one.  Well I’m pretty sure dishwashers have been on sale somewhere.

Since she refused to do a walk thru, can we be held liable for the damages that were existing when we moved in? We took pictures of everything right after we moved in and they are date imprinted. We have also painted all the rooms and have done some other repairs for which she wouldn’t  refund us.

As I read through you question the first time, I thought, “Oh boy, this is going to be messy if the tenants try to sue the landlord in small claims court.” That is, until I read the second to the last line. You did the right thing in documenting the move-in condition of the house with photographs.

Ideally, it’s a good idea to try to get a landlord to fill out a move-in checklist. I provide a typical example in my early blog, Grand Theft Security Deposit. A typical checklist can be found here. Even if you can persuade the landlord to fill one out, you should be taking photographs off the unit while the landlord initially inspects. Right then and there, if the landlord has any rudimentary intelligence, he’ll know that it’s going to be tough to screw you when you move out.

Civil Code §1950.5(f) provides in part: “[N]o earlier than two weeks before the termination or the end of lease date, the landlord, or an agent of the landlord, shall, upon the request of the tenant, make an initial inspection of the premises prior to any final inspection the landlord makes after the tenant has vacated the premises.”

Civil Code §1950.5(f)(3) also states: “The tenant shall have the opportunity during the period following the initial inspection until termination of the tenancy to remedy identified deficiencies.”

Although there is no case law on this to my knowledge, I think a tenant can make a strong argument that the landlord’s refusal to do a move-out walk-through estops (prohibits) her from making later damage claims.

The key here (and I know I harp on this almost every week) is to get everything in writing. For example, having an email from the landlord refusing to do a properly requested move-out inspection would, with your photographs, make the case an easy winner.

It is also important to read Civil Code §1950.5 and follow the procedure exactly. That way the landlord cannot later claim that you did not request a final walk-through or that you did not timely request one.

As usual I recommend that tenants, before they give notice to vacate, visit the San Francisco Tenants Union to understand their rights and obligations during the move-out process.

As for your 1972 orange shag carpet, it’s only 40 years old. It’s a classic. You should simply love and accept it these days, sort of like a 1972 Richard Nixon.

I almost forgot to mention that you always have to sue a landlord like this to get back your deposit. But in your case, you should prevail. It was a smart move to document the move-in conditions with photographs.

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Stop Wishin’ And Hopin’, Get Back Your Security Deposit

Stop Wishin’ And Hopin’, Get Back Your Security Deposit

Stop Wishin’ And Hopin’, Get Back Your Security Deposit

Our landlord ran off with our deposit more than 6 months ago. We try and call him but no luck. One big problem, we don’t even have a copy of the lease! We do however have quite a few witnesses who can attest to us living there. We’d like to not go to small claims court. Any ideas?

Let me get this straight, your landlord refused to refund your security deposit six months ago and you don’t want to go to small claims court to get it back? Yeah, I have an idea or two…

But first, let’s go back to 1964. Betty Friedan had already published her book, The Feminine Mystique in 1963. That same year, Gloria Steinem wrote her famous article about working in the Playboy Club. The “pill” had been marketed since 1960. Feminism had hit the ground running. In 1964 the iconic British pop singer, Dusty Springfield, released her hit song, “Wishin’ and Hopin.” Listen carefully:


Plannin’ and dreamin’ each night of his charms
That won’t get you into his arms

So if you’re lookin’ to find love you can share
All you gotta do is
Hold him and kiss him and love him (and squeeze him)
And show him that you care”

You gotta love her hair… and that eyeliner. Yet even in 1964 the message was, at best, a tepid assertion of feminine will. And unfortunately, the prize was some shitbag who required that you “do the things he likes to do” and “wear your hair just for him.” Like your landlord, perhaps?

I don’t claim to be the Betty Friedan of tenant law. There are many, many others who have worked in the trenches longer and harder than me. But I have to tell you the only way to show your landlord that you care is to sue him. Squeeze him where it counts. It is unlikely, after all this time, he’ll give you the time of day. After all, he’s moved on. He’s got a new abusive relationship.

Sheesh, what’s with the no copy of the lease? These days it’s easy to scan your lease as a pdf if you don’t want to carry around the extra paper. Do you have a canceled check to prove that you paid a security deposit? Did you take photos of the place when you moved out? Did you request a final walkthrough with the landlord?

The first idea I have is that you should gather together every possible piece of evidence to prove that your landlord absconded with your security deposit. Then take your evidence to the San Francisco Tenants Union, the Housing Rights Committee or any other tenants rights organization and ask them if they think you can prove your case.

Next, you need to become familiar with California Civil Code §1950.5. It provides, among other things, that a landlord who wrongfully withholds a security deposit can be liable for up two times the amount of the deposit in statutory damages. In other words, if the landlord wrongfully withheld your entire deposit you should ask the court for three times the amount.

Pick up a copy of Everybody’s Guide to Small Claims Court in California, by Ralph Warner for Nolo Press.

There are many online articles about recovering your security deposit. The security deposit section at Cal Tenant Law is instructive. The Tenants Union also provides good information. I have also written a blog post, Grand Theft Security Deposit.

I can’t stress this enough: Phone calls never, ever convince a landlord to refund a security deposit. To wait six months and think you might not have to sue is simply wishin’ and hopin’ and thinkin’ and prayin’. Get on it!

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